So Did Scott Brown about being an independent. He took the "Peoples Seat" and turned it into the "Bankers Seat" !!

Ron: you need to get your facts straight. You put your money in a blind trust AFTER you are elected to avoid a conflict of interest. You disclose your finances BEFORE you run so there is transparency and everyone knows . it's called FULL DISCLOSURE.
You disagree?

I know nothing about the woman running or office .....
There is nothing in that video to prove she is not a descendant!
You have an American Indian doubting her authenticity; and a skeptical reporter doing something less than an unbiased interview!
If Warren is 1/32 American Indian .... Let her identify that .... Lots of European Americans do the same regards their origins .... Over time the same will apply to the descendants of African American slaves, as they marry and produce children having mixed origins. This is a terrible example of what is wrong with American politics, on a bunch of different levels today! Report real issues and positions not rediculous irrelevant nonsense!

Unfortunately, a mandatory bullet point on the resume of any Liberal democrat running for office is dishonesty or immorality. The fact that she lied endears her to the Liberals in this state. "She's a liar, but she's OUR liar". Despicable woman who, like Obama and many other Democrats, are congenital liars.

For One, He voted against extending low interest loans to students ! Sounds like something that might have been influenced by the financial institutes.
To me that was a dumb move on his part - Massachusetts is rhe "Education State"
why would someone vote against his own state's Industry?
Can you give me a bill that he workrd on with Democrats
that got passed?
Why would someone , Brown, continue to subsidisze Big Oil - They don't contribute anything to Massachusetts. If anything he should support Wind Energy since me have the beginnings of that industry here in Charlstown?

George,
You may want to ask the Kennedys what their feelings are about windmills since they blocked them. Student Loans have nothing to do with banks, they come from the government. My god please get the facts. I suppose the amount of loans and the borrowing required has nothing to do with the high cost of college., Your Obama surrogate running in Mass enjoys with a her husband a 7 figure income based upon the high cost of college.

Tommy: here's how. Brown voted to eliminate the 18Billion that bankers would pay to fund Dodd Frank in exchange for his vote.. Bloomberg just threw another fundraiser for him with every known elite banker on Wall Street in attendance .
Forbes Magazine , no liberal voice, designated him as the 11th favorite Wall Street US Senator. Brown is now working behind the scenes to further water down Dodd-Frank in exchange for campaign contributions. US Chamber of Commerce gave him $800,000 to vote against repealing credits for corporations that ship jobs , factories and money overseas. Get it now! Imazing you plead ignorance on this stuff. FOX won't tell you any of this.

George,

Scott Brown voted for extending low interest loans to students. It passed the Senate 74-19. http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2012/s/172

You're spreading falsehoods.

It was part of a larger bill. The student loan part was all a part of the bargaining that goes with the bill. Keeping the student load rate low was never really in danger.

I was just responding that Beafcake Brown also lied when he said he is going to be an Independent voice. He also said he was going to be a "leader" in the Senate.
How can you be an independent voice when he is beholden to the Republican party and their cronyism? If he were a true Independent he should run as an independent and not try to fool the people.
Warren doesn't claim to be independent - She is a Democrate,

hmmm "Beafcake Brown " -> but I can't use messiah?

seems some Dems are struggling, they see power slipping away after that Jimmy Carter like speech last night. No change and now there is no hope, ... but I am now wiser, just give me 4 more please please please, I set these new spiffy goals, shh on the ones I missed and the ones I recycled (after all I am a green president). Almost 400k people stopped looking for work, think they are better off?

If you are going to denegrade Brown for his Media Error in posing for an article; I guess you also would those Democrats who placed Clinton and Teddy on a pedestal despite their womanizing and subsequent lies to cover same!
Brown is a Republican! No surprise.
You have preseknted no direct information indicating he lied or was misleading, about trying to do some independent thinking, if he were to win office! If you found his election rhetoric reprehensible, he is a fund raiser - doing what is required to be competitive in today's special Internet crazed political process!
I guess you feel the same about our President's electoral rhetoric in 2008 and now again in 2012!
How can anyone who would support a Kennedy take exception to Romney's wealth .... The Kennedy's trump his situation many times over .... and the Kennedy wealth can be traced to Prohibition related illegal Liquor Running.
Politics is filled with things to be disgusted by .... Tabloids focus us on the negative.
Supporters on both sides use personal attacks instead of factual position differences or position platforms.
The questions we should want discussed should have to do with how any candidate will represent our interests and improve same .... The rest is all BS!

The Truth hurts! Scott Brown voted twice to let the interest rates on student loans double!

Well the students wouldnt have to pay nearly as much if they didn't have to pay Elizabeth warren 333,000 dollars to not teach.

The bubble in student loans is being fueled by low borrowing rates. Add a flood of fed money to drive up costs and you have disaster. Not to worry, your children and grandchildren will pay for it. Probably a very good decision on Scott Brown's part, yet most think free money is the best way to go.

George ,
You can vote for Obama if you wish, but please get the facts straight.
His money is in a blind trust to remove any conflcts as to what he will or will not do if elected. Each president and many politicians actually do this as a matter of course to remove any potential claim of conflct. You may if you wish argue that running a business is different from running a state or the US, but to try to argue that Romney is not a good businessman is without merit. If anything he is being forced to apologize for making too much money. The Olympics that he "saved" and even his critcs would have to agree were the 2002 winter olympics. "The Salt Lake Games faced a bribery scandal and some local opposition during the bid, as well as some sporting and refereeing controversies during the competitions. Nevertheless, from sporting and business standpoints, they were among the most successful Winter Olympiads in history; records were set in both the broadcasting and marketing programs. Over 2 billion viewers watched more than 13 billion viewer hours.[6] The games were also financially successful raising more money with fewer sponsors than any prior Olympic Games, which left SLOC with a surplus of $40 million at the conclusion of the games. The surplus was used to create the Utah Athletic Foundation, which maintains and operates many of the remaining Olympic venues." from wikepediia. I hae no idea what OBAMA 11 is.

GL -> Mr O himself set a goal for domestic natural gas development and stated "support more than 600,000 new jobs in natural gas alone" ;)

George this post is embarrassing .... Please get a grip on politics and blind trust requirements.
The problem with today's political environment has to do with mis-information and biased reporting! People say things like you have about Blind Trusts that diminish any reputable points they might make!

The trustee of Romney's "blind trust" is his longtime friend and business associate Bradford Malt. In 1994, when he was running for the Senate against Ted Kennedy, Romney attacked Kennedy for disclaiming any responsibility for his investments, declaring at one point: “The blind trust is an age-old ruse.”

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-30/business/30676371_1_malt-romney-offshore-accounts

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/purdum/2012/07/mitt-romney-age-old-ruse-blind-trust

How can anyone vote for Obama. The economy is a complete disaster with no end in sight. Unemployment is over 8% and if you count people who gone off the grid its around 12%. The divide between the top earners and lowest earners in the US is greater than ever. The racial divide has gotten worse with a president who is consumed with promoting racial tension. Gas prices have doubled since he he was in office. In 3 years he pissed away trillions of dollars on nothing, far exceeding Bush's ridiculous spending in 8 years. Starting with his pre-election world tour he has done nothing but apologize for the evil US and its actions.
But fear not folks, George's magic 401K has DOUBLED in Obama's 3 1/2 years.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out Big O., though I am sure a main stream media member will be right there to catch it before he gets it.

Ron: " JOBS Act"? Brown voted to table the American Jobs Act that OBAMA proposed , drafted, wrote and supported, and NOT bring it to a vote.It would have employed 1.3 million workers. Then Brown took one facet- Veterans credits- out of the Obama bill and co-sponsored just that portion, as if it were his idea.
Explain " elitist" harvard law professor. Is everyone that teaches college "elitist"?. BTW , Warren does not make "500,000k". If you would 'love the gig", then get an undergraduate degree, a law degree, pass the BAR, graduate work at Penn State, write some papers, draft legislation, head a consumer finance agency, write a book, publish some papers in a reputable journal, etc.

Tyler,
You as usual do not know what you are talking about. The JOBS act is the act that allows crowdfunding, you may want to read a little. I actually do have a law degree passed three bar exams and have not made a bunch of ads running as a populist. Student debt is a direct result of the cost of school. Again, you may actually try not attacking the person, but deal with the facts. And I know what she makes because I reviewed her tax returns.

Tyler,
Title III of the JOBS Act amends Section 4 of the Securities Act to create a new exemption for offerings of “crowdfunded” securities. Specifically, the JOBS Act amends Section 4 of the Securities Act to exempt issuers from the requirements of Section 5 of that Act when they offer and sell up to $1 million in securities, provided that individual investments do not exceed certain thresholds and the issuer satisfies other conditions in the JOBS Act, some of which will require rulemaking by the SEC.

One of these conditions is that issuers use the services of an intermediary that is either a broker registered with the SEC or a “funding portal” registered with the SEC.

Scott Brown was the co-sponsor of the Senate version. I stand by my observation that she is an elistist trying to recast herself as a populist by overusing the phrase "rigged" and now "working their tails off". By the way most of the full professors at Harvard, do not even teach their classes by themselves, they have teaching aids. These "aids" help write the books and papers to which you refer.

George,
You may want to actually read the legislative history of two bills you site. I am also waiting for a response to my claim that your information has many factual mistakes.

Hi Bob
Can't think for yourself?

On this site George we try not to attack individuals.

Well said Randy --- too many people sidelined by the noise .... Too many voters taking sides not knowing if/how their candidates reflect positions that are in their (the voters) own interests!
Neither side is getting their message across on what their positions mean to their constituencies! Voters are falling under Mob Mentality control .... voting for candidates that may very well cause them pain and suffering ....
If the Republicans roll back Obama Care and have teir way introducing a voucher replacement for Medicare, most middle class voters will pay thousands more a year pay for Medical Care and MediCare than they do today ....
If the Dems pass tax reform, the Middle Class will not see an income tax increase .... but SS Medicare and Medicaid pay check and benefits will be changed having large impact on the Middle Class!
Those are the type of position statements that need to be vetted .... Enough of the personal attacks - talk about how things will be if you are elected and talk about who gains who losses who pays ....l

"talk about how things will be if you are elected and talk about who gains who losses who pays "

-> sounds good but in case it isn't clear we'll ALL have to do with paying a bit more AND expecting a bit less (given 16 trillion debt), that includes the ~ 50% (?) who pay NO federal income tax. Prime/current example is the HR 4170 (I am torn between the names: "college student welfare" and "college professor welfare", that last one is for YOU E. Warren). The middle class (college students) are being "hammered" and expecting to be bailed out. No longer does the chosen field matter because there are no losers (except the tax payers if this drivel is passed).

Hillary in 2016, if the liberal establishment sees this guy is going to lose (to steal a phrase "get hammered") they will throw him under the bus (like he did the Rev Wright), liberalism is bigger than him and must survive ;) and that (him under the bus) would make for an easier time in 2016 (theoretically).

Good question, it makes it seem like play money after a while doesn't it.

For the last three decades, but mainly since 2000, the Western economies has been fueled by debt.. not sweat labor East of Asia nor quantitive productivity improvements - just unrestrained public debt funneled in and out of the central banks and treasuries of the respective countries. Japan's debt is 250% times their GNP.. but instead of paying it down.. they instead buy US Treasury debt notes from which we funnel the cash to country whose banks are in dire straights. Not 48 hours ago, the ECB agreed to backbone Spanish banks.. Where did they get the $670B Euro's for the exercise? From Individual central banks; each who already have crushing debt limits. So, we have a country like Italy on the edge of the cliff coughing up 17% of their borrowed money from Germany to save Spain and Greece. But the sugar daddy sucker of all is the USA .. which via the IMF and is paying 22% of money pre-borrowed from China for this Ponzi scheme. There IS a reason the Bernanke won't let the Federal Reserve be audited nor will he release congressional subpena document requests that would allow public oversight to determine where and to whom all the $Trillions we borrowed (and you co-signed) went? You lost your country a decade ago. Kissinger use to ask in the event of spot crisis .."Where are the aircraft carriers?" Now, we're in a financial debt crisis.. You should ask .. "Where are the financial SWAT teams?".

China and the oil producing Middle East.

can anyone shed any light on this "payback student loan as a % of your income for 20 years and then you are done" concept? Is that already law? or pie in the sky? I really don't know, this is an honest question. My thoughts on it later ;)

this is it

H.R. 4170, the Student Loan Forgiveness Act of 2012.

still just a goal, thank god it started in the house!

.. And ask from whom the forgiven 1+ $Trillion is NOT going to repaid to? Since the hope and change government usurped the student loan business from community banks.. this debt will be thrust upon your sons and daughters in the form of taxes, salary, and job loses over their lifetime .. and most from this generation didn't even apply or receive any benefits from this academic fraud scheme. Reality is a harsh mistress.

Obamas 1/32 nth of a recovery.

then you must have watched Mittens trip all over himself with grand words and no plan, except feed the rich some more money and hope the fairy dust sprinkles down

Love what you said ... all too true and so sad to think so many people were duped. To the question at hand, I had to keep swallowing to keep my dinners down during the watching of this convention. The worst speech given was that by EW ... so full of garbage, trying to talk to us regular guys, using words such as "rigging", as though she truly understands the meaning of the word, which I think she just may very well know since she has rigged her profession with lies. I asked once before, where did this woman come from? Oh, I know, Oklahoma, but who thought her up as a candidate for anything????? I never even heard of her before and I don't care to have her, an outsider, in my life as my Senator. I prefer balance which I believe we have with Scott ... Why is it that people do not see the need for a 2-party Commonwealth? Representation in any Government office is supposed to reflect the needs and desires of the common man, me, and EW is very uncommon in my mind. Having said all that, I will say I was left nonplussed by the R convention as well but for different reasons ... just not enough said about actual plans of how problems are to be solved, just vague references. Still, as an independent, none of the Dems will get my vote this time around. I must consider that at my advanced age, this may be my last chance to make my vote count and I want to get it right!

Jeff, if it's any consolation, I don't think you're a racist. Just misguided and slightly blinded.

It's almost comical to label as "radical leftist" a plan first proposed by the Heritage Foundation in 1989, and championed by several Republican governors in the 1990s and 2000s -- including, of course, Gov. Romney. That's just the blindness setting in -- either that, or a complete ignorance of recent history and an eagerness to swallow what Fox is force-feeding you.

Your comment about "our monumental national debt" also shows an ignorance of where the debt originated. (Please note, I'm using ignorance in its definition of absence of knowledge, not as a personal attack ;) )

The Bush tax cuts, Medicaid drug benefits, and both unnecessary wars were the biggest contributors to the current debt levels, vastly outstripping TARP, the auto-bailout, or Obama's health care plans.

And I voted for Romney once before. I would be stupid to do it again.

George ....
If that is what you want to base your decisions on, good for you.
Bashing Romney does little ..... other than spread the negative sode of this race.
How about speaking to Obama's performance and what exaclty he plans to do for the Middle Class.
Talk to your candidates strong points and stop speading negatives .....
Sounds like you don't like (or know much about exaclty what the candidates will do for the Middle class) either major candidate and thus are trying to take down the one you like the least!
Tell me from your perspective --- how will 4 more years of President Obama actually do anyhting for you personally?
Are you personally better off than you were 4 years ago?

Check out your 401K, UP 100% since OBAMA took office.
Republicans under Bush Tanked IT

What facts do you need? It's COMMON KNOWLEDGE!
OH forgot- Tax Havens in Bermuda, Caymen Islands, Switzerland.
etc etc

Not even an atta boy for my call/lesson on natural gas? if you look deeper (pun intended) oil is also more plentiful than you'll admit

One last lesson today (for you): an investment is only up or down on the day you cash it out, you should not expect it to only go up, if you think it is only up from here then you are sorely mistaken.

IF we were hiring for a position in the middle class, he may not fit. BUT we are hiring to help build the middle class (not organize the needy). Mitt has made promises in the past (dreaded private sector) and always delivered or exceeded expectations.

Mr O made promises and you got:

- unemployment then 7.8% now 8.3%
- median income then $54,983 now $50,964
- gasoline / gal then $1.85 now $3.87
- national debt then $10.6 trillion now > $16 trillion
- food stamps then 28 million now 47 million
- ssi/disability then 7.4 million now 8.7 million
- $716 billion taken from Medicare
- no plan to balance our budget (dirty Harry has not passed a budget in over 3 years! where is the criticism there?)

George,

Tell me, how did POTUS or FLOTUS py for their Ivy League educations.
Not the same way I paid for my college and post graduate education or for the education of my children.
Tell me if their children are enrolled in the DC Public Schools system?
Romney did not come from a Middle Class upbringing; but neither did POTUS or FlOTUS! Neither of the candidates has lived with the Middle Class Life,
Romney came form Money
POTUS came from poverty and entitlements.
I worked and paid for my own way.
Neither of these candidate is looking out for the Middle Class.
They both claim to be concerned about the FUTURE Generations.
How altruisitc.
What are they doing to help our children who that have lost most of the labor movements protections and the social safety net. Our kids can't fiond jobs ....
POTUS foresake them for Health Care ... Romeny will foresake them for the beneffit of Management.
How about the people living the hell that is middle class today.
Which of the candidates is good for the Middle Class.

Romney built businesses that created jobs. Unfortunately, in a climate where the federal government penalizes success and taxes successful businesses to the point where it is too expensive for them to keep their operations in the US, he did what he had to do to keep the businesses viable. Sent operations off shore. If the US had a tax structure that incentivized companies to keep operations within our borders and did not penalize corporations for their success, he could have helped keep jobs in this country while helping the business succeed. We need a businessman like Romney in office because he knows better than the free-stuff-king how to make companies thrive in the US and provide jobs in the US. All Obama wants to do is take chunks of flesh from corporate America and feed it to those who would rather suckle on our government than fend for themselves and go out and get a job. The democrats corporate tax structure drives jobs off shore and keep their support base, the free-stuff-army, dependent on government handouts. The last thing a democrat wants is to see unemployment down below 3%. If everybody had jobs and could support themselves, democrats would lose their support base.

Sorry your correct its only up 95%. Tanked at 6700 under Bush now its about 13000.

You sound reasonable for sure. BUT "A promise from Obama is..." a bit of a worry, for sure. Think of it like this, why the middle class and why now? Did the middle class suffer any more/less than the lower class (I don't see any data to support that)? aren't there levels of middle class? ...

My take is that the middle class was still the middle class 4 years ago. Mr O got most of what he wanted to make a difference and it had little/no effect (that is difficult to argue). And now Mr O and the Dems being politicians; they have latched onto this "we must help the middle class", just a bit late in my mind, no president worth his weight blows 4 years (see this guy got a 4 year education because he did NOTHING beforehand) and expects 4 more years. He has NEVER balanced a budget, shows a great deal of what runs around in his head by choosing Biden as VP, ... From GO this guy was/is unimpressive and now the whole country/world sees it.

bah ha ha ha, here is a fee for you: if the reader says "where's the beef" you can not post again for a month, see ya!

Well it certainly does for my TD Ameritrade IRA's as well as my 401K's. I watched them both tank under Bush

Stock market tanked at 6700 under Bush now its at 13000.
(13000-6700)/6700 = 95% Increase.
Romney double his stock market investment wealth under OBAMA from Bushe's time !!

Don't Understand ! What's foolish about the stock market doubling in the last 3.5 Years under OBAMA? My investments certainly have gone up significantly.
Better than loosing half your value during Bushe's Watch - And Romney wants to go back there with the same old Republican economic policy. Does not compute!

reading comprehension is definitely a problem

I am sorry you did not avoid the polluted water when you were a youngster ;)

Hey wise guy(George Lewis) ... don't you lecture me about past and future. You cannot begin to know tough times. Was it not Republican President George Bush #1 who pointed out the disastrous condition of the Charles? You love your party and that's all to the good ... I am simply suggesting that there is more than meets the eye in this present administration and not much of it is savory. And, smartie, read my past post and realize that I do not align myself with any party, I am as dissatisfied as most people over present conditions and there is enough blame to go around. I said clearly that I believe BALANCE is important and I will strive for that with my one vote. BTW, I am glad for you that your portfolio is comfortable but that is certainly not the case with everyone. I think you are a thoughtful person but I think you have much to learn and should keep your attitude in check. Learn a few things from your elders and pay attention to what is said, don't assume and don't lecture. You could probably learn quite a lot from comments by Ron (Johnson) who appears to know a lot and is knowledgeable (far more than I) about proceedings that have taken place in DC. And, one more thing ... cut the war on women crap ... I'm not buying that for a minute and if you do you're sadly being brainwashed. And if you think I'm lecturing you, right back atcha!

Why don't we just go to a one party system since only democrats are on the right side of goverment? Oh yes we have that here in massachusetts and we see how well that has worked with all the house speakers convicted of federal crimes over the past several years.

Well you do look at the stock market and it did double during OBAMAs 3.5 Years.
Like I said all the money I had in stock related plans came back from the abyss
Bush left us in. Thank you OBAMA!

Hi Michael
No good telling that to me. Try telling Boehner, and Mitch McConnell to comprimise and not hold the country hostage to their nonsense!

Your fearless leader should have told Nancy and Harry when they wrote and rammed through O-care. It seems all the O-promises last time around were just wool over your eyes.

Hi Michael
Just drove up from Boston and saw OBAMA dollars at work fixing our infrastructure! Republicans have no plan for repairs of Bridges, Roads or other related projects.
OBAMACARE got passed which gives many people access to medical care and even Romney is embracing parts or it and Brown's daughter is being covered under it!
Manufacturing is beginning to significantly pick up - A number of companies are relocating from China back to the US.
Stock market is back up!
There have been no real Threats of Terrorism. I feel more secure under OBAMA

Personally, I think that is quite a bit being accomplished considering OBAMA has an
antagonistic Congress working against the country!

Also for more recent polution events check out the Newton Creek in Greenpoint, NY.
But hold your nose!!

Hi Tom
You should read up on the 91st Congress, and prior to that the work of ED Muskie with the clean air act in 1963 1967

Hi Andrew
Back to the subject- I'll Vote for OBAMA -
He accomplished quite a bit in the last 4 Years and even received a Nobel Prize.
He's tough on terrorism
Got OBAMACARE Passed
Brought the stock market back from the point of depression
Created over 3 Million Jobs
Saved the Auto Industry
Started rebuilding our infrastructure- OBAMA DOLLARS at Work
Eliminated Don't Ask don't Tell
Got us out of Iraq
Getting us out of Afghanstan
He's Got MY VOTE !! Probbably the greatest president in My Lifetime!

I'm sure you would have had a different story if Romney received the prize!
You should be proud that an American won the Prize and not someone from India or China!

yup that reset button with the WRONG Russian word on it sure went a long way

but please be patient "I'll have more flexibility after, ..."

Anna, since you credit the military with killing Bin Laden, do you also blame them for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

The simple reason that Bin Laden wasn't captured under Bush is that Bush was on twice as many vacations as Obama and Bush didn't assign the necessary resources to get the job done. There's no mystery about it. Bush said it wasn't a high priority and so it wasn't.

Romney is dangerously weak on foreign policy and our military. He didn't thank our troops in Afghanistan, and when asked why he didn't, he said: “When you give a speech, you don’t go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important". Pretty pathetic.

Before Bin Laden was killed, Romney said he wouldn't have gone into Pakistan (where Bin Laden was hiding): “I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours. … I don’t think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort.” He added that troops “shouldn’t be sent all over the world” and that Obama’s remarks were “ill-timed” and “ill-considered.”

Romney's latest stunt was to stand on the grave of a foreign service officer, not yet three hours dead, and called a press conference to criticize the behavior of our embassy.

Anna,

I usually don't comment here but after reading your comments about the President and the raid which resulted in Bin Laden's death I have to say something. As the daughter of a career Army officer, I believe that respect for the chain of command is paramount in the military and the President is the Commander-in-Chief. It was ultimately his decision to go ahead or not and that decision carried many risks. He had to take in to consideration the possible costs of the operation in terms of our soldiers lives and also carrying out a raid on Pakistani soil without their knowledge. If the raid had been a failure it would have been his responsibility and you know that his opposition would have been all over him on it! I don't think that he has taken all of the credit for the operation and in fact always defers to the soldiers who carried out the raid.

And as for your comment about vacations, I don't begrudge any President for taking some R and R. All Presidents before him took vacation time. Both President Bush's had vacation homes where they spent a good amount of time and President Clinton took his vacation as well. I don't believe there are statistics to show that President Obama has taken any more vacation than the others.

Yup! And Mitt Romney would run off to a castle in Paris again!

I'm Looking for ballance and I don't see any on the Republican side.
Again I ask, over the last 40+ years what have Republicans done for our country?
Seems all the great programs were sponsored by Democrats.
Americans for Disabilities Act. Clean Air and Water Act. Medicare, OBAMACARE
etc. etc.etc

George, Did you hear our esteemed President's words after hearing of the attack on our embassy in Libya? I thought he could have been more Presidential and more aggressive, defining clearly that murdering Americans is unacceptable and will be dealt with severely. Romney spoke the truth, we have a wishy-washy guy in the WH, constantly making apologies, trying to "talk" away trouble with enemies. I agree he could have waited a day before speaking out, it may have been more respectful and seemed less political.The truth, nonetheless.The great programs you define as sponsored by the Democrats have cost us and are still driving us into deeper holes, many supporting people who have not earned them and some not even US citizens. I will not even address the ACF (Obamacare), which will cost us greatly, with all it's hidden this's and that's, and the rationing of care for some individuals who may be in greater need of care. My friend, it is well and good to be green, I am as green as anyone, maintain my home & gardens completely organically, recycle all used material I have no further need for, but 1st things 1st. Clean environment is VERY important to me but clean administration, enhancing our lives and country is #1. I feel the past 3+ years have given us grief, empty promises, and hopelessness for so many, a WH staff of questionable character. Poor judgement has Mr. Obama. But what can one expect from one who was simply known for his speaking ability, not much more?

BTW ... only 1 "L" in Balance.

Hi Ron
You seem to be pretty savy in politics.
Maybe you can answer my question? Anna can't.
I think Eisenhower was the last great Republican President. Interstate Highway,Peaceful uses for Nuclear Energy - Great programs that benefited the country.
What programs have the Republicans proposed/enacted since then to benefit the country?

I don't know where you got that saying from? I respect the man as well as the office!
I respect Romney today for backing off on politicizing this crisis.

So What is Romney's solution to the Terrorists. He didn't even want to go after Bin Ladin. He has no policy for those countries. He has no policy for Africa. He has no policy for Iran. He talks leadership,but I don't see anything. He is a zero on foreign policy!

Anna I hope you feel better.

You are correct, Romney did not back track, the problem is not Romney! it is a press that tried to ambush Romney, a president that only apologizes, as a matter of fact go back and take a look at what candidate Vegas had to say about troop surge, ... hypocrites

Why would anyone vote Republican. For the sake of Ballance? They haven't done anything in the last 50 years! They're track record for the economy in the last 50 years is poor! Their record on social issues is poor! So why would someone looking towards the future go with the Greedy Old Party.
Vote OBAMA
PS Stock Market Up Again, Jobs Comming Back
By By Romney

hmmm maybe this had something to do with it? Sorry I know you don't keep up on current events (except the stock market close).

another bubble anyone? fools!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-pulls-trigger-buy-mortgages-163638925.html

The Fed said it will buy $40 billion of mortgage-backed securities per month in an attempt to foster a nascent recovery in the real estate market. The purchases will be open-ended, meaning that they will continue until the Fed is satisfied that economic conditions, primarily in unemployment, improve.

think of it as a reverse campaign donation

Further, I do not ever remember trips by any President's wife or children to foreign countries with a full staff of I don't know how many secret service and other personnel, again at tax-payers' expense. If I am wrong, please enlighten me ... I will happily stand corrected.

Anna

I found this reference on factcheck.org regarding President Obama's trips abroad which compares them to past President's. http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/the-traveling-president/ I don't know if he travels any more than President Bush with his family but I certainlwould not have begrudged either President for traveling with their families from time to time. Remember, President Obama's daughters are still quite young and it makes sense that they might travel more with their parents than the Bush's daughters who were college age when their father was elected president. Not sure what you mean by distant lands - do you consider Hawaii a distant land? Any President travels around the world frequently on diplomatic missions. That is appropriate.

Anna,

Also I disagree with you on the Commander-in-Chief issue. It states in the Constitution that the President shall be the Commander-in-Chief. Obviously our founding fathers thought it was an important role. I don't think that we should diminish the weighty decisions that a President has to make regarding our military - even if he doesn't plan the missions. When they are successful great but when the fail the consequences can be catastrophic. And I think every President in history has celebrated military successes like President Obama. Do you remember President Bush on the aircraft carrier declaring "Mission Accomplished"? I think both Presidents praised our men and women in uniform and did not take the credit themselves. I have no problem with it.

Romney's exploitation of the death of a foreign service office is relevant because it shows us that he is unfit to hold office, and we are lucky voters got a preview of his incompetence, disrespect, and flat out lies in advance of our election.

Anna you have the timeline and facts wrong when you say that "the first comments coming from O after this mess started at our embassies was to criticize R for his comments". Here's the actual timeline: 1) Protests began over the film. 2) The embassy in Cairo issued a statement supporting free speech, condemning the film, and asking for calm. 3) The protests in Libya led to the murder of an American staffer. 4) Romney immediately called a press conference and blamed Obama for apologizing for the death. He didn't call for our nation to come together, or for respect for our loss, or even wait for the man's family to be notified.

See the lie? Romney blamed Obama for apologizing even before Obama had made a statement about the death. That's putting politics above our nation and even above simple courtesy to the family of a man lost in the service of our nation.

I think Romney is probably the right candidate for you. You said you wish we'd leave the middle east and that you wish we'd a contingent force. Romney is the candidate that lets you have it both ways on every issue.

Glad you must be feeling better Anna, you sure are picking up steam here ;)

That 2007 quote by Mr Obama in Cairo, priceless, it goes something like this: I truly believe that day I am inaugurated not only will the country look at itself differently but the world will look at America differently.

Hmm, Just being Obama isn't enough in the Middle East? Just being Obama isn't enough for the economy? maybe someone should tell the Middle East and economy that Obama was elected?

Queue George, stock market up ;)

Anna,

I am providing the link to Factcheck.org on the events of last week. You are completely wrong that Obama's first comments were to criticize Romney than to honestly sympathize with the families. Obama first commented at a press conference on Wednesday morning at approximately 10:30 am after Romney had doubled down on his comments at his 10 am press conference. The original press release the night before came from a press officer at the embassy in Cairo before the attacks in Libya had occurred. At that time there were demonstrations outside the embassy in Cairo but no one had breached it. They were interested in diffusing a situation that was getting scary. Obama said in an interview Wednesday evening that he preferred not to second guess the embassy staff since he was not in their shoes at the time. I don't think we should judge from the safety of our homes in front of our computers.

Anne ,

Here is the fact check link I forgot to include in my last post. http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romney-gets-it-backward/

George ... who said a thing about war? I hate to tell you this, you have a bit of a nasty steak and it is very unappealing, not at all funny. Stick to the facts, if you please, not conjecture.

hmm what does it say when CNBC puts up something like this?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobless-rate-really-16-075118888.html

Someone is going under the liberal bus!!!!!

I hear you: deaf, blind and born to follow, ... (lyrics to a favorite song of mine)

May be, but true nonetheless and something I think we have all known for a very long time ... keep hearing about folks just dropping out of the work force, not collecting unemployment.

BTW ... in a previous comment, Georgie, you made mention of my collecting SS and Medicare. Yes, but it is and never was a free-be ... I have paid for this throughout my working life, kind of like money in the bank, would you agree? Not a giveaway, FYI.

George ... please read over my comments ... I clearly stated that I was never in favor of invasion of Iraq ... no argument from me there. Incidentally, "He", President Bush was not alone in his thinking and did not enter this venture single handedly ...we did have allies who agreed. War, in my opinion, is a very last resort and I agree that it is expensive but, when necessary, it is worth the expense if it achieves our goals. Hans Blick had it right, I guess ... who really knows what happened to those WMD's. They existed at one time for sure.

Anne, as I look over most of your responses in this woeful thread, I can't help but think that you need to start becoming friends with Google. The following took less time to find than it has taken me to write this reply.

http://www.thearc.org/page.aspx?pid=2598

If you want more specificity, look at the IDEA component of the Act that requires schools to create IEPs for each child. As the parent of a developmentally delayed child, I see this as one of the best functions of the ADA.

http://www.ada.gov/cguide.htm

And Anne, please educate yourself on the history of the ADA. It was nearly killed by business interests that wanted to gut its provisions.

http://dredf.org/publications/ada_history.shtml

Mike ... continued.. for every kid and adult in my town except the DD I just don't see where the ADA has come forth to provide for my son's needs.He falls in the Broulet Class Action Suit whereby he should be provided with care long after I am gone, but I cannot even get DDS to carry out an agreement I have with them to house him in his own home at his and our expense,with a roommate and fulltime caregiver for which they will pay a salary, their only financial obligation to be offset by the roommate's Medicaid payments.They have reneged and I am getting nowhere.I may not have thought clearly before I wrote what I did, my angst/ dissatisfaction with our local systems got the better of me.I maintain that much more consideration needs to take place where our kids are concerned.I am pleased to report that through all these years of diligent and hard work, mostly home developed programs, my son has progressed enormously and is a somewhat functioning, tax paying member of society,works independently at a parttime job, a great help to me around the house and yard, is happy and the very light of my life. I know he will grieve the loss of me one day and simply want to have him situated before I go.That was the plan agreed to that is now objected to.I am offered to place him in a form of what I consider foster care, "Shared Living" whereby he would move in with a host family.That is completely against what we planned, for him to remain comfortable in the environment he knows and loves

Mike .. did I not say that in my very upset state of mind I may not have spoken clearly? You are correct ... but I'm still FIGHTING for basic, human rights for my son. ADA or not. In my opinion, DD individuals may not even have been considered were it not for the existing 766 and 94-142 laws.

Anne, I meant to add this but had to take a call:

The ADA specifically applies to people with mental impairments across a fairly broad spectrum. The 2008 amendments reduce the bureaucracy surrounding the administration of benefits.

Ron ... I really appreciate your actual, factual responses ... wish I could think and speak as clearly.

Ron, the ADA gave IDEA teeth, which is one of the reasons it was enacted in the first place -- to bolster a good law with a comprehensive federal overview that took into account education, housing, accessibility and many other factors. in 1990, IDEA was revised to dovetail with ADA.

So, on to your closing comment about "which party was in the White House" when both laws were initially passed.

Few things actually make me laugh out loud online, but that comment did the trick. You're complaining about a law while simultaneously giving Republicans credit for it, erroneously, by the way. Ron, you should run for office!

Both acts were sponsored and promoted by Democratic senators, and passed into law by the Democratic majorities in each houses at the time over the objections of the business interests that tried to block passage. These were some of the "right-minded persons" who said that the ADA would cut into their profits.

Hopefully you are just goofing on people here but, if you're not, you and your "ilk" will lead to the downfall of this country but then, when someone is so self-absorbed as you sound, the country or future generations paying off "your man" Obama's debt isn't of concern to you.

stevieB, ladies and gentlemen......or as you know him at home, "racist strawman".

It's fun to poke fun at dumb n-werds, isn't it?

40B didn't start nor will it end with the current Executive.Least of all because its a STATE statute.

btw - I concede that 40B is an understandable impulse by people who are well off....but in application it causes a lot of local turmoil and can dramatically affect the character of a town (especially when developers get a pass at all local zoning laws in service of 'greater good'). I hope you realize by my comments I am not a fan of this broad policy.

But honestly, reducing this election to "oh that brother in the white house wants free government cheese for his bros" is ........less than helpful. Thank you for contributing to the political discourse, though. I respect your right to pretend your ancestors who came here with basically no obstacles and also that their contemporaries don't avail themselves of large tax exemptions like the mortgage interest deduction, child credits, flexible health accounts and dependent care deductions. Disclaimer - so do I, and most of my 'true american' suburban friends who consider themselves rugged individualists merely taking advantage of tax policy.

Also - Go look up the facts on SSDI demographics before you paint that as a black thing...it's primarily a poor white issue. Christ look at West Virginia alone! That wretched piece of the Republic would be uninhabitable without federal subsidies and prescription drugs (little arable land, mostly steep hills and valleys, few resources and pitiful education)....they got God though! Sadly, he is tax deductible....yet they frequently use community services to treat snake handling victims.

I wonder what you feel about the Mormons' 'welfare cities' in Utah, Nevada and Colorado where they practice 'cohabitation' and claim millions of tax dollars for 'single moms' to support their polygamous lifestyles. Yeah let's elect one of their own - he can fix the problem!

Oh, Georgie ... give it up. We know where you stand, you've made your points, give it a rest. Let me refer you to a comment from a book I read by Dennis LeHane, "The Given Day," a line that has always stuck with me and has a lot of meaning today ... ".....Some men fiddle while cities burn .....such men love ash ..." Does that have any meaning for you? Am now reading (again) "A Tale Of Two Cities" which is a bit analogous to the times we are presently living in. You simply cannot deny that these are hard times for many and a promise that a new beginning is in order with the same-ol' same ol' ... I am not buying it. Smarten up my boy.

hmmm are you saying 190% is worse than Obama's 55%? Clearly #s are not your strength!

One thing about Romney is that he has you pegged -> member #1 of the 47% ;)

Obama's small % increase is $6 TRILLION!!!!!! (yes one ! per TRILLION), as I said #s are NOT your strength! Good for you paying taxes, the 47% # still applies to you, do some research ;)

Actually, Vincent, you might want to do some research to see where that $6 trillion came from.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html?ref=sunday

http://www.offthechartsblog.org/what%E2%80%99s-driving-projected-debt/

Obama's contribution that that debt was primarily in the stimulus programs designed to keep us from toppling into depression.

OH NO both class clowns are after me ;)

What would you do? Hit them with FACTS 10.6 TRILLION when he started and 16 TRILLION now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yes that was 16 !s, one for each TRILLION).

Do some real research!

Billy is entitled to his opinion but who cares what he said and thinks? It's what ALL of US think that matters, not what one (or even more) show biz guy has to say. What makes him such an expert on intelligence? Maybe you can answer that.

I agree with the sentiment Mitt was trying to speak. I DO NOT AGREE with Obama's redistribution ow wealth/audio!

I do have a bit of a sinking feeling in recent days; we may get Mcain-ed again (I really don't see the needed passion). The difference between you and me is that I look at everything, I don't just swallow what is fed from a party because I always voted for it.

George ... correct (for once), I did confuse the two. So you know, I don't agree with him all the time. I don't think R is stupid, perhaps a bit arrogant but so are many, including your God, Mr. O. I think O is trying to emulate King George from back in the day. He needs to find a way to convince me that he is genuinely concerned about our future and not about his own in legacy. That said, he is not unusual in that most Presidents want to live in infamy and be remembered for what they consider their accomplishments, I just don't think he is trustworthy; at least he has not gained my trust and the more I hear him, the more convinced I am that he is sneaky and seeking to reinvent what America stands for, mold it to what he "thinks" we should be, and I do not accept his theories of distribution of wealth, his bowing to enemies, disregard and lack of respect for the magic of ordinary people who are the backbone of this country. He talks a good story but he does NOT walk the walk. Just remember his associations with questionable characters and you will understand from where I come. But you know and I know most people will vote their party and that's sad. We all need to really weigh issues and not be drawn into party lines. I think it is one of our biggest problems, people go along with a party because that's what they've always done regardless of the candidate. I see it right here in these comments and my heart breaks a bit more each time I realize this.

If you could take %points, put them in the bank, pay off debt with them, ... then you'd be correct BUT you are WRONG and just trying to spin $6 TRILLION more in debt in his FIRST (and only) term, for the sake of the country I hope he goes the way of Jimmy Carter.

"jobs created or saved" -> the biggest line of @#$% he sold and you bought over the past 4 years! well maybe "shovel ready" is a bigger basket of @#$% but you should get the point!

Bankruptcy would not have resulted in all jobs being lost nor the government holding stock in a "private" company (an almost guaranteed loss for tax payers and gain for Obama's union buddies). Why stop at the auto companies, why not the fishermen, the ... OH the auto workers withhold dues and send them right along to the DEM party.

Complete conjecture on your part. My dear, you are one of the ones I feel sad about, will not think on your own, simply follow your party line.

I don't grasp your reasoning. So you are saying if Romney becomes president and 12 Million new jobs are created in 4 years as he said he would do, Romney shouldn't take credit for it ? Who gets the credit?

Bush ;)

George,
You now have it. If you were paying attention, I would not give credit to the President for job creation that is done with out tax dollars. I would give him credit for creating an environment for companies to hire hew employees. I can create a job for you, just pay me and I will be glad to hire you with your own money. I can than take credit for creating a job. I think you would rather have me just hire you.

My thought exactly, re: the 9/11/12 attacks ... hardly a word spoken in recent days and I find it so disturbing. My schedule did not allow me to listen/watch H.Clinton, don't know what assessment of the situation she presented. Have gathered, however, that they are FINALLY coming to terms that the attack was deliberate and focused on the anniversary date ... let's see how this gets handled, if it even does.